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October 19, 2007

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quasimodo

Yep, Mrs. Quasimodo and I were on that cruise. Archbishop Foley was wonderful, funny at times - enlightening and insightful at others. He takes himself lightly. congrats

Stephen Korsman

He sounds like quite a character - we need more of those. A very interesting read about him. A slight side-track - how many priests (non-bishop priests) are cardinals?

bill912

I was on that cruise, too, and had the privilege of having Archbishop Foley hear my confession. He gave me good advice and great comfort.

bill912

Anyone who has watched ceremonies from the Vatican that were narrated by an American with a deep voice and clear enunciation has heard Archbishop Foley. As someone on the cruise remarked, he reminds us that Cath-o-lic is a 3-syllable word.

Josh

@Stephen Korsman

It's my understanding that under the modern system, any man elevated to the Sacred College receives episcopal ordination prior to actually receiving the red hat.

Thomas

Episcopal ordination for Cardinal-designates is preferred, but several dispensations have been made. Henri de Lubac and Avery Dulles being two of the most notable.

rocco

That is great news. We need a little humor in the Vatican

deb

I've never heard of Archbishop Foley before but he sounds like he'd be a great person to be around.

Juli

Good post SDG!

I will keep my eye out for news on the Cardinal.

Neal

I remember listening to him hosting the TV coverage of Midnight Mass from the Vatican every Christmas.

Sean Gallagher

I've met Archbishop Foley briefly on a couple of occasions. The most memorable was last year when I was in Rome to cover the canonization of Mother Theodore Guerin. (I work as a reporter for a diocesan newspaper.)

I had to go back to the offices of the Pontifical Council for Social Communication, which are back in Vatican City, in order to get part of my press credentials.

Well, I got a priest friend of mine to accompany me to it. (I thought it would be good to have someone at my side that the Swiss Guard would have to salute.)

We first went to a building where there was a receptionist. That person called the offices we were going to in order to let them know we were on our way.

Well, when we got to the office building (a three-story affair, if memory serves me correctly), I opened up the main door and who was there to greet me but none other than the archbishop himself.

A very affable man! Congratulations to him!

werw

I have met him personally

Steve

I believe he was the commentator on EWTN when the announcement was made following the conclave that elected Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as Pope Benedict XVI. Upon hearing the word "Josephum" by Cardinal Medina, Archbishop Foley exclaimed "YES!"

But then, my memory may be corrupted. Like a computer that tries to archive too much information.

Pyro

Chuck

J.M.J.

I have known His Eminence since 1993. He is surely a dedicated priest and bishop. His graciousness strikes those who know him. Please join me in praying for him.

Martin

I've never met the man but I imagine him afterwards standing up and saying, "You love me, you really, really love me"!

Thomas

Steve,

Father Neuhaus was the commentator you heard on EWTN. Archbishop Foley's voice is a little deeper, but they are pretty close come to think of it.

Sven

This is not a comment about Archbishop Foley, but rather about the new slate of cardinal electors.

I can't for the life of me understand why the Pope picked so many more Europeans. Maybe his brilliance is overrated. There are more Christians in Africa than Muslims, and, as has been noted in the linked analyses, 2/3 of Catholics live in the developing world. Furthermore, the Catholic clergy in places like Africa tend to be thoroughly orthodox, in contrast to the milquetoast dandies throughout the US & Europe. At a time when Latino Catholics are leaving the Church in record numbers, and when Islam is making inroads in Europe, America and even Latin America, the "whitening" of the Catholic hierarchy only serves to reinforce many people's existing opinion that Christianity - and Catholicism in particular - is "the white man's religion". This is especially tragic given the Church's early history in places like Ethiopia & North Africa which precedes the introduction of Christianity to much of Europe. Jesus was not a European (all the blue-eyed paintings of him notwithstanding).

It's not about being "PC". It's about effectively witnessing to the world. Sometimes it seems like the Church isn't even trying. They act like it's some kind of country club. I don't get it.

matt

Sven,

do you think the Church should have cardinals elected by popular majority, distributed by Catholic population?

Just curious,

Matt

Sven

Matt,

Should the Church have cardinals elected by popular majority, distributed by Catholic population? Maybe. Early popes were elected by acclimation of the people. That might be better than elevation of one's cronies like with the Borgheses. I'm not saying the individuals selected this time are without merit. I am saying it can be disheartening to non-white Catholics (which is to say MOST Catholics) that their countrymen seem to be perennially shunted aside.

I figured it wouldn't take long for someone here to make some snarky comment about political correctness. I'm surprised you didn't decry my comments as promoting a form of affirmative action - "Heck - it's gettin' so's a white man can't hardly even get hisself a job as Pope anymore!"

Is it really so hard to understand how the never-ending dominance of the church hierarchy by Europeans might be impeding more widespread acceptance of Christianity among non-Europeans? Or do you just want Jesus all to yourself?

matt

Sven,

I figured it wouldn't take long for someone here to make some snarky comment about political correctness

I made no snarky response, although you did. I guess your response to my question didn't surprise me, or your false accusations against me.

So basically, you are accusing the Holy Father of at least subconcious racism? Do you assume that he has malice in his choice of cardinals?

God Bless,

Matt

Sven

Matt,

In answer to your questions... "Yes" and "No".

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