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November 13, 2006

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kevin

Yes "The Doctor" seems to visit quite often...and he helps out in this matter...

Fr. Erik Richtsteig

It seems this fellow has been watching WAY too much Dr. Who.

Tim J.

Why doesn't the former minister just come out and tell the truth? The fact is, we have already been invaded... and you're next!

You're next! YOU'RE NEXT!!!

Ryan C

I'd rather call Bill Paxton. He not only handled the aliens in Aliens, but came back from the dead to kill them again in Independance Day.

"That's it man. It's game over man, game over!"

francis 03

The fact that you are all making fun of this poor fellow just shows how subtle the alien invasion really is. Don't blame him when you wake up on a spaceship tomorrow, abducted!

francis 03

My apologies if that was uncharitable to Mr. Pope.

There coming to pick up those who have been podded in Medjugorje

Paul H

Everyone here seems quick to dismiss this story. But stories of UFO sightings and alien abductions have always been something of a cause of concern for me. I know that logically, even if sentient alien life exists (which it may not), the odds of them visiting us here are extremely small (because of the immense size of the universe, because of the probably very small number of life-supporting planets, because of the need for them to exist within the same time period as our civilization, etc.). And I'm sure that at least some of the sightings and abduction stories can be attributed to hoaxes, delusions, sightings of military aircraft, etc. But some of the sightings and other accounts seem hard to explain away. Am I just being paranoid? Do stories like the one quoted here bother anyone else besides me?

MenTaLguY

Assuming some of the sightings are legitimate, we've still not established that they're actually extraterrestrial.

francis 03

Paul,

In all honesty, I do think you're being a little paranoid to be bothered by this kind of story. It seems to me that there are all kinds of crazy hypothetical dangers or catastrophes that one theoretically could worry about-- but it doesn't really make sense to worry about them because

(i) on the information we have it's impossible to assess whether those dangers are real

(ii) it is impossible (or at least very nearly so) to gain any additional meaningful information on those threats,

(iii) because of this, even if the threats are real there will likely be nothing we can do about them till the materialize, and if they're not real they obviously won't impact our lives in any way, and

(iv) it's just no fun to be worried all the time, especially when it doesn't do any good.

My thoughts, for what they're worth.

bill912

This explains the recent increase in the dividend checks from my tin foil stocks.

Paul H

Mentalguy and francis 03, thanks for your responses to my post.

Assuming some of the sightings are legitimate, we've still not established that they're actually extraterrestrial.

True. But then the question would be, if not extraterrestrial, then what are they? Could they all be explained as sightings of top-secret military aircraft? Maybe so, at least for the UFO sightings, but I'm not entirely convinced. And what about abduction accounts? Perhaps they are all hoaxes or delusions -- if not, then the only other explanation that comes to my mind is the demonic -- which I suppose is a possibility.

In all honesty, I do think you're being a little paranoid to be bothered by this kind of story.

I appreciate your honesty. And just to clarify, I'm not worried about us being under threat of attack from extra-terrestrials. That's not my concern. It's hard for me to explain exactly what my worry really is. I guess the best I can do (and this isn't a perfect explanation) is to say that when I hear credible accounts about unexplained UFO / "extra-terrestrial" sightings like this, I have no good way of incorporating them into my Catholic worldview. And that leaves me feeling unsettled, and triggers some minor doubts about the accuracy of my worldview, because it seems that maybe there is some data that my worldview is not doing a good job of explaining. Does that make sense?

It's kind of the same way that I used to feel about the theory of evolution, until I learned that (A) there are some credible scientific objections to the theory of evolution, and (B) certain versions of the theory of evolution are completely compatible with Christian faith. But until I was aware of these two points, the seemingly irrefutable theory of evolution was hard to square with my Catholic worldview, and was always a point of tension in my thinking. That's not a perfect analogy to the way I feel about UFO sightings, but it's sort of similar.

It's the end of the world as we know it. I feel fine.

Esau

It's the end of the world as we know it. I feel fine.

Thanks 'You' Might Be Giant(s)!

Esau

I'd rather call Bill Paxton. He not only handled the aliens in Aliens, but came back from the dead to kill them again in Independance Day.

"That's it man. It's game over man, game over!"

RYAN C (Or any Independence Day Movie Watcher):

Didn't it strike you as rather odd that the operating system of the Alien's ship in that movie had also the same one as ours??? I mean, for us to be able to upload the virus to the alien's computer, wouldn't that assume they have the same operating system???

Things that Make you go HMMMMM????

Ryan C

That just shows that Bill Gates is an alien. Which we all knew anyway.

Esau

That just shows that Bill Gates is an alien. Which we all knew anyway.

I guess Tim J is right then -- we've already been invaded! And what's a more powerful tool for the Aliens than the ubiquitous presence of the Bill Gate's MS Windows Operating system which can be found on almost every computer in the world!!!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHhahahaha!!!!!!

Ryan C

Ripley should be canonized immediately as the patron saint of fighters against aliens.

Michael R.

Didn't it strike you as rather odd that the operating system of the Alien's ship in that movie had also the same one as ours??? I mean, for us to be able to upload the virus to the alien's computer, wouldn't that assume they have the same operating system???

Well, there was an alien spaceship on hand. Oh, and a 1337 h4x0r. There's nothing in a movie you can't do when you have a 1337 h4x0r.

Esau

Ripley should be canonized immediately as the patron saint of fighters against aliens.

RYAN C:

Do you happen to have the St. Michael Prayer Equivalent for fighting against the Snares of the Aliens???

Just a quick note, it's all in good humour, folks! I pray the St. Michael Prayer as well! ;^)

LarryD

Wasn't it Bill Pullman in Indepedence Day?

Hey, according to Men In Black, aliens have been here for decades.

"Elvis isn't dead, he just went back home."

MenTaLguY

the only other explanation that comes to my mind is the demonic -- which I suppose is a possibility.

Given that demons are one class of intelligent non-terrestrial creature which we do know definitively to exist, I would would not prematurely exclude them from consideration in any particular case. I wouldn't necessarily rule out corporeal extra-terrestrials either, but their existence is rather less certain, and I would treat an apparent manifestation with due caution.

Brian John Schuettler

Perhaps we need to modify that prayer...Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in inter galactic battle, be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the alien hordes...

BTW, have you ever wondered whether Skeletor might be more than just a cartoon character???

Esau

Perhaps we need to modify that prayer...Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in inter galactic battle, be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the alien hordes...

BTW, have you ever wondered whether Skeletor might be more than just a cartoon character???

Brian:
That was HILARIOUS!

Actually, I always wondered stuff about Castle Greyskull as well! ;^)

MenTaLguY

BTW, have you ever wondered whether Skeletor might be more than just a cartoon character???

Yeah, but then I start wondering what his neck looks like.

Patrick Kinsale

Reminds me of the old Twilight Zone episode. All they want to do is to serve humans.

Kris

In regards to Independence day, if the aliens have only advanced so far as to using a Microsoft operating system we have nothing to worry about.

Alien 1: "Xenon, aim the super-laser at the earthlings!"

Alien 2: "I'm trying sir, but my controll panel just blue screened!"

Tim M.

ROFL !!!!!

Patrick,

Speaking of service and humans... you reminded me of the idea I heard a while back that if aliens ever came to earth they would think that dogs are the dominant species. This would come from their observations that humans walk two to ten feet behind the dog and reverentially carry their feces in a bag. :)

(The Simpsons? Seinfeld? I don't remember where I originally heard this so PLEASE, if you know... say so, so we can give credit where credit is due.)

Esau

In regards to Independence day, if the aliens have only advanced so far as to using a Microsoft operating system we have nothing to worry about.

Alien 1: "Xenon, aim the super-laser at the earthlings!"

Alien 2: "I'm trying sir, but my controll panel just blue screened!"


KRIS:

ALIEN TO ALIEN COMMANDER: "We need to download the latest patch! HURRY!!!"

(no good... it was more funny when that played out in my head! Ahhhh... the simple pleasures!)

Randolph Carter

I, for one, always thought that the best way to keep aliens from illegally entering one's country was to fortify one's borders with--

Oh, not that kind of alien invasion? The other kind?

Well, then, I suppose that any military reaction taken against an extraterrestrial power trying to invade the Earth would be depend on the calibre of aliens trying to conquer us. For starters, the vast majority of aliens seem to be allergic to germs, and those that are not seem to have (as has already been mentioned here) some sort of IBM compatible operating system installed on their warships, which also seem to lack any sort of firewall or Norton-esque anti-viral software, therefore making it easy for a hacker to hit their systems with a major case of the Blue-Screen-of-Death (or, as would seem to be the case with extraterrestrial ships, a giant laughing skull-and-cross bones).

Now, resisting an alien invasion becomes somewhat more complicated when said aliens do not attack us in a conventional war, but rather try and infiltrate our ranks via espionage. In such a case we would be dealing with a kind of Mi-Go\Puppet Masters\Pod People\Goa'uld type of "aliens walk among us" situation. Now, in the case of the Mi-Go, they don't really look much like humans, having to wear waxen masks to disguise their hideous, fungoid-insectal faces. Therefore any Mi-Go invasion could be easily offset by high-powered heating-lamps, which would not only melt the Mi-Gos' masks, but also likely melt the Mi-Go themselves, light being deadly to them. The Puppet Masters are aliens that we shall not consider seriously how to fight, since Heinlein merely invented them as an excuse to mandate that everyone on the Earth be forced to go around naked. To discovered how to defeat the Goa'uld, we only need to rent Stargate SG-1 via Netflix. Sadly, we have no credible defence against the Pod People :(

Matters are complicated further if the aliens do not come in the form of human-sized creatures easily killed by small-weapons fire, but rather in the form of giant bi-pedal artillery, ala a War of the Worlds\Megadoomer\Angel type of situation. Now, we all know that the aliens from War of the Worlds fit nicely into that first category of aliens which are allergic to germs. Can anyone, however, really stand up to the Megadoomer? I think not.

And lets not even discuss what would happen if these aliens came in the form of aeons-old nightmares sleeping at the bottom of the ocean, waiting until the stars are right to launch their full-scale assault on we mere mortals, and reclaim the world that we once stole from them.

In conclusion, I can only say that if aliens were willing to spend all that gas-money to cross all those light-years to get to Earth, then they're probably not going to allow themselves to be defeated by us. Earth would lose any fight with aliens, and we would all be enslaved, and I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.

Esau

Randolph Carter (Samantha Carter's husband??? -- Never mind!),

I think you put TOO much thought into that one! ;^)

Also, I think you neglected the aliens from that ridiculous movie Signs, who ended up trying to invade the earth even in spite of the fact that it actually rains on this planet, and, therefore, wouldn't actually be a good place for them to inhabit since they can't stand water (unless they were thinking of terra-forming earth, but, even then, they should have done that first before actually invading...unless that's the very reason why we're experiencing global warming...hmmmmmm)!

Also, regarding your bit:
In conclusion, I can only say that if aliens were willing to spend all that gas-money to cross all those light-years to get to Earth...

You forgot about spice!

Maureen

No, that means that Randolph Carter is an _ancestor_ of Jacob and Samantha Carter!

Makes a lot of sense, actually... He was given to walking through gates of ivory, and Sam's walking through stargates. :)

Esau

No, that means that Randolph Carter is an _ancestor_ of Jacob and Samantha Carter

Thanks Maureen for the info!!! ;^)
hehehehhee....

Wm H

Nick Pope has not said anything about Alliens are going to attack the Earth. This is didinformation and wrongly creditted to him.

From: Nick Pope Contact@NickPope.net
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:29:56 -0000
Fwd Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:19:45 -0500
Subject: Nick Pope Resigns From MOD

As many people are aware, I recently resigned from the Ministry of Defence. The media coverage of this has been extensive, but not entirely accurate. I thought I would explain the situation.

I made the decision to leave early this year, but for a number reasons did not formally submit my resignation until early September. My last day in government service was 31 October. I've greatly enjoyed my 21 years in the MOD - and in particular my time running the UFO project - but left in order to devote more time to my various business interests.

In view of the media interest in my career, I issued a short press release, simply stating that I'd resigned. The Press Association saw this, interviewed me and ran a story which was then picked up by most of the UK's national newspapers. I was subsequently interviewed on numerous TV and radio shows.

I haven't resigned because of my belief in an imminent alien invasion, as has been reported in certain media outlets. That said, I remain convinced that the UFO phenomenon raises important defence and national security issues, and believe sightings should be investigated in a proper scientific way.


Best wishes,

Nick Pope

http://www.nickpope.net

JC

I've seen this fellow on TV before. You guys are all falling into the sensational headline.

The point is: there are plenty of credible, well-documented incidents of military personnel being freaked out by what are literally "unidentified flying objects" and strange vehicles.

Pope himself has said in the past--and in this article--that his *real* concern is the US and other powers testing advanced weaponry on British soil without British approval. Saying that it's "alien invasion" is giving the benefit of the doubt to his purported allies.

Brian John Schuettler

There is reliable information, perhaps even evidence, that Nick Pope is genetically linked to the original alien stock i.e. Egyptian era geek stock.
He purportedly has been assigned the role of disturbing the immanent invasion of their ancient rivals who will seek to ultimately upset the existing order established by Pope's alien stock. I would suggest that we interrogate Pope and do what is necessary to get all the information out of him. Of course, we will consult with Mark Shea inre: torture parameters and the theological implications of torturing aliens.

Eileen R

Nick Pope might not be worried about the threat of imminent alien invasion, but I wonder if this story is a permutation of a real story about an ex-Canadian Minister of Defence who believes the world's greatest threat is the United States invading the aliens.

May I present Paul Hellyer!, former deputy prime-minister of Canada!

"The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning" and "The Bush Administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide."

Eileen R

Also, Mark Steyn's article on Paul Hellyer is hilarious.

"Now it would be easy to dismiss Paul Hellyer as a fringe whacko. But, in fact, he's a mainstream whacko: as defence minister, he committed the single greatest act of Liberal vandalism in its entire Khmer Rouge Lite dismantling of Canada, abolishing the Canadian Army, the Royal Canadian Air Force (at that time the most famous air force in the world) and the Royal Canadian Navy (in 1945, the third largest surface fleet in the world) and merging them into the "Canadian Armed Forces." Nothing Mr. Hellyer does now could be as crazy as what he did then. Indeed, the likeliest explanation for his recent public conversion to Roswellian conspiracy theories is that the alleged "Canadian" is himself an alien, part of an advance guard with which the Dark Lords of the Grits from Planet Trudeaupia seeded our hapless Dominion in preparation for taking over the planet. "

Kevin

Eileen you might think on who wants access to your drinking water in less than 50 years before knocking Hellyer so hard.

Eileen R

Aliens?

Brian John Schuettler

They covet your water, Eileen....run, don't walk!

bill912

They're after our precious bodily fluids?

Brian John Schuettler

Let's just say that something has been scaring the fish in my pond...and those strange night sounds...it's getting close now...this could be my last entry...the drums!

bill912

"...the drums!" You suspect a Balrog? Fortunately, Jimmy is the keeper of Glamdring!

Brian John Schuettler

Then summon Jimmy to the throne room with Glamdring...come quickly lest the darkness falls and alas we are no more!

Jak Solomon

Check out:


http://www.uk-ufo.org/cosford for a blow-by-blow account of one of Nick's Official investigations, including scans of official documents.

Jak.

Kevin

Yes Eileen, Aliens American Aliens.

Honora

My cousin really did see a UFO, up close and personal one night somewhere around 1975. She called some official UFO government agency and they sent someone up from Virginia to interview her that same week. She'd gotten up that night for a drink of water, and noted some sort of flashing outside. Some weird craft hovered over a building that housed a large power source, and eventually zoomed off without a sound. Absolutely terrified her, someone who prided herself on never being afraid of anything or anyone. She was scared for months.

For the sake of perspective, however, what could be scarier than the possibility of impending mushroom clouds upon this earth again?

Peter

In regard to 'credible UFO people, I have been referred to the "Disclosure Project" and others. Like: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1891970137640135436&q=Greatest+Story+ever+denied

Shadow governments; warring aliens; massive cover-ups; former NASA and military people claiming all sorts of stuff... All this conspiracy stuff is making my head hurt.

patrick

InvadingAliens!? Get the Tinfoil Hats, the Holy Smoke Bombs ('Censer'ite200X) and the Tridentine Ballistae (fitted with VII Missiles). Deploy the Sattelite of Love (and Faith and Hope) and the Petrine Barque for possible Invasion!

An ounce of discretion is worth a pound of learning... Jocatta

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