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January 17, 2005

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Steven D. Greydanus
"The newspaper said a plot that was codenamed Operation Rabat"

"Rabat" apparently being a reference to an article of clerical garb covering the shirt front?

This is "news" indeed, in a sense, and I'm glad that Reuters has picked up the story. Too bad that they're still giving so much attention to the anti-Pius propaganda.

Brad Haas

"Too bad that they're still giving so much attention to the anti-Pius propaganda."

No kidding. Besides, I don't see very many Jews with "discontent" about Pius XII. I usually hear it from Evangelicals.

Oh, and don't mentioned he saved 800,000 Jews. That's not noteworthy. It's much more fair and balanced to say that "the Vatican maintains that ... he worked behind the scenes to save Jews." :\

BillyHW

I'm surprised that Reuters didn't mention his "conservative" and "inflexible" stances on contraception.

Steve Jackson

Mr. Haas,

What proof is there that Pius XII saved 800,000 Jewish lives? It's my understanding that this number comes from a book by Pinchas Lapide which does not document the claim. (I will be the first to admit that I haven't looked into this issue closely.)

Steve Jackson

Mr. Haas,

In addition, the smear campaign against Pius XII seems to come almost exclusively from Jewish groups such as the ADL & the AJC. I've seldom heard Evangelicals discuss this.

As one example, just the other day the ADL attacked Pius XII:

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=10364

Bill Quinnan

That's an interesting article, but I'm not sure that, even if the allegations are accurate, it would have any bearing on whether or not Pope Pius XII would be canonized. From what I understand, the Church has long held that baptized children should be brought up in Christian homes, for the good of their souls.

It's one thing when no relationship with the Church exists to begin with -- when one has never been baptized. But to have that relationship established through baptism and then break that relationship is to throw away something sacred and holy.

As for Evangelicals, Jack Chick is sort of the extreme example of someone using misrepresentations of Pope Pius XII's actions as fodder for anti-Catholicism. There other Fundamentalists who hold less extreme, but still negative and unfounded, views of the pontiff.

JonathanR.

"What proof is there that Pius XII saved 800,000 Jewish lives? It's my understanding that this number comes from a book by Pinchas Lapide which does not document the claim. "

Well, it was good enough for Golda Meir...

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